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Report of Engine Cab Condition Committee Meeting
Oct. 11, 1996, Prince George
by
D. Moorhouse
Attendance
| David Moorhouse |
Bob St.Criox |
| Harry Ulch |
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| Rik Campbell |
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| Rick Morgan |
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| Lloyd Sopel |
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| Dick Yeomans |
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GENERAL
Dick Yeomans attends to express UTU concerns about Dash 7s and GMscab
too small for 3 seat layout. Concerns about size of congestion in cab if crossing
accident, insufficient baggage rack, 2 doors only. Sopel responds that resolution
must come from higher level.
Yeomans adamant that no one ride second unit, second unit historically the
one that suffers most in derailment. R. Campbell agrees 3 persons and baggage
impractical.
Sopel to write B. Rose, B. Sharpe, Ruddel, etc., copies to committee.
Yeomans expresses concern about suitability of CAT toilets, must go outside
to use, concern about using the toilet while moving, complaints from members
about being too cold, suggest CATs be used trailing only. Ulch suggests sticker
be placed on front door advising movement be halted before using toilet.
Engs 631 and 32 at P. Geo., dirty, smoky, oily. Sopel replies shops were
under impression that these units to be retired soon so maintenance fell off.
Sopel commits to maintaining to standards eg. seats, exhaust leaks, oil leaks,
gauge lights, heaters, bells, smoke etc. to be done by end of Nov.
OLD BUSINESS
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Noise level testing on Dash 8 w/EFI upgrade
not yet done, not up to full horsepower, only at 4140 HP. Testing to be
done when upgrades finished. |
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Request outside impulse noise level on whistle
of 631-32 in response to hearing injury. Testing to be done. |
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Air quality in tunnels - gone to GC of A and
OH & S. |
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GPS and emergency locator beacon - no action,
item open. Ulch looking for additude / accident alerter, says ERD on CN
beltpacks go off in RTCs office. Ulch to write Garlock, Nicholls regarding
same. |
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Magnetic clips will be supplied by rules dept.,
H. U. to query Brent Few as to when available. |
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CN power trailing unit unsuitable for lead on
return leg of coal trips. Garlock did not issue instruction to inspect trailing
unit before leaving terminal acct. D. Klitch snuffed it. Sopel say bulletin
to be issued regardless. Warm fridge issue due to CN power remaining shutdown
until required still requires action. (Instruct CN to start units prior
to call). |
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Ergonomic Study safety dept. will not
conduct ergonomic study citing existing reports from other railways. Moorhouse
states that it is prudent of us to properly evaluate work we have done,
to draft a letter on behalf of committee to R. Nicholls. Copies to committee
members. |
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2nd blanket in first aid kits not
complete 20 / 80 done, open |
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Stretcher installation status unchanged |
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Emergency equipment location chart now standardised |
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Request first aid kit location on GEs
be moved to inside cab rather than between doors as the kits freeze up. |
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Bell damper device, not suitable, Pandrol test
bell appears to be good, noise levels in cab reduced, sound outside cab
slightly higher |
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Toilet flaps, bending appears to have stopped,
toilet vent all checked and are all working, suggest turning on fan and
closing all windows to positively pressurise when toilet in use |
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Sinks, soap dispensers, no change on GMs,
Dash 7s have them on upgrade, Dash 8s 3 / 30 done. Soap is stock
item, dispensers should be full. |
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Paper towels - Sopel related problem to materials
management, sourced new towels that should be more suitable. Item closed. |
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SBU storage brackets - slowly progressing installation
of racks on rear dropsheets. |
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Gold stripe air hoses to be supplied on all
locos. |
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Double shelf couplers - concern from UTU and
CUTE that these could pose hazard in derailment, Sopel to contact AAR and
manufacturer for reasons why they are supplied. |
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Radio headsets, budgeted only for CATs
and electrics. Moorhouse provides information on music-capable headsets
recommended by CanAlert study. (Enclosed) Sopel to forward info to B. Rose
for budget consideration along with timeframe query. |
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Dangerous goods document pockets - 4616, 4619,
3608, 3609 have them, ongoing. |
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Portable radio chargers on engine - 3 types
needed, info fwrd to B. Rose, response pending |
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Adjustment knobs on older style Airchief seats
not yet done |
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Seat material cleaning schedule yet to be instituted |
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Toaster rack, corners to be cut to fit hotplate |
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Fridge racks sliding out - fix not yet done |
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Side Display
Speedometers - Material problems DoneCATs12/27
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GMs 13/16 |
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Dash 7 4/16 |
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Speedo lighting on GEs too dim - solution
pending |
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Beep on locotrol brake controls not loud enough
- investigate volume increase |
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DB /motoring performance on Dash 7 - excessive
wheel slip - info arrived, solution in pipe, power still limited under 25
mph |
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Dash 7 has new low-back middle seat, understood
future seat purchases would be high-back and low-back seats in dash 8s
would be swapped out. UTU contends that 3 seat configuration in Dash 7s
too crowded, unsafe. Ulch feels desk location should be closer to Conductors
seat. |
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Eng. 622 rib pad installed - item closed |
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6 Baltaur seats purchased for installation in
CATs |
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Dirt and Grime on CATs - traction motor
blower too large, not standard, money available to re-do blower motors. |
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Durox seals on Dash 7 doors - doors may need
replacing (warped), test durox seals on CATs and GMs - Dash
8 air (drafts) coming in through control stand, will investigate |
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Prime oven in CATs - suggest trying one
up high on front center |
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Full fly mirror on Conductors side of CATs
- not required, item closed |
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GMs oven location - not acceptable over
fridge behind conductor, will impair vision, OK on top of fridge if fridge
relocated to original position in center of cab. Solution depends on whether
or not 3rd seat installed |
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GMs, tray over heater on enginemans
side installed |
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Dash 7s try to move conductors table
closer to conductor, 3602, 07, 08, 10 upgraded, 3 more underway, 3607 -
full overhaul done incl. new engine |
Durox seals for Dash 7s to be included as std. in upgrade
3610 baggage rack needs improvement
Swivel visors to be included in future upgrades
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Dash 8 |
- drafts under investigation
- Conductors desk 6/30 done 7th underway, Moorhouse suggests padding
sharp edge of kneewell beside relocated emerg. Valve
- Ovens, goal is 1 a week
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Dash 9 |
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- vibration - letter to GE to fix (under warranty),
speculation that it is a frame design problem, fuel tank, harmonic vibration.
Answer pending from GE, Sopel to keep group updated |
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- No action yet on wiper noise, park feature |
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Non-skid surface and clips to be installed as
Dash 8 conductors desks, 4 ovens done |
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Electric engines - meeting scheduled with northern
contingent to disscuss |
NEW BUSINESS
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R. Campbell |
- 640s future? Sopel says they want to keep em going for another
2 years. Request upgrade to present standard, otherwise lead service in non-CCO
territory
- Questions benefit of labour relations as members of committee
- Budds, seating needs replacing, both sides. Drafts, water coming in
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B. St. Croix |
- Need standard for field maintenance when engines are on work trains for
long periods, Sople replies maintenance done at request of RTC
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D. Moorhouse |
- Old style cond. Desk lamps, guards fixed? Yes
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R. Morgan |
- Electrical leakage test? Done every 90 days
Next meeting, 0900 Tues. Jan 28 1997 at North Vancouver yard office